Monday, April 25, 2005

Some good news from Iraq

Via OpinionJournal:
Recently the BBC decided to conduct an informal survey around Iraq: "Two years after the statue of Saddam Hussein was toppled in Baghdad, marking the fall of the city to US-led forces, BBC Arabic.com asked seven Iraqis for their thoughts on how life has changed for them since the conflict."

The results were surprising--at least for the BBC, whose attitude toward the liberation of Iraq has always been lukewarm at best. They were surprising for me too, not so much in what the seven Iraqis had to say, but that the BBC chose to run the story.

Here's Saad, 32, sound engineer from Basra: "Iraqis are feeling better. They are breathing the air of freedom. They read, watch and say what they want. They travel, work and receive a living wage. They use mobile phones, satellite dishes and the internet, which they did not even know before. . . . As for terrorism, we are now beginning to unite against it and to defeat it."

Noura, 32, a computer engineer from Baghdad and a Christian: "While we lost security after Saddam's fall, we gained our freedom and a chance to build a new society."

Nada, 32, a government worker from Mosul: "We never imagined that the Turkmen community would have a political party representing them in Iraq, but this is happening now."

Kaban, 31, electrical engineer from Baghdad: "There have been many changes since the fall of Saddam's regime, but the most important change was that we feel free. . . . However, those who say that security was better in the past are completely wrong. It is true we did not have suicide car bombings in Saddam's era, but our homes did not feel safe from the intrusion of Saddam's security men, who came in the middle of the night to kidnap, kill or rape."

Waala, 25, a schoolteacher from Baghdad: "The Sunnis in Iraq do not live in isolation from the political and social circles of life, as many people outside Iraq seem to believe. Nothing has affected our relationships with each other--we face the same problems. This applies to Sunnis or Shia, Christians or Muslims, Arabs or Kurds. Unfortunately, the refusal by some Sunnis to participate in the elections was the cause of some political isolation."

Imad Mohammed, 25, a university graduate from Baghdad: "I am no longer worried about losing my dignity or my life. And I am also getting a higher income, like most Iraqis."

It's not a scientific survey, and the seven interviewees' concerns are many, most notably the still-precarious security situation. But the sense of newfound hope and optimism cannot be easily dismissed, particularly since it also seems to be reflected in other interviews, opinion polls, and changes on the ground.
There's more good news. Read it all.

10 Comments:

Blogger Barba Roja said...

Seven is nothing. Find me seven million and then we can talk.

4/26/2005 9:33 AM  
Blogger Lina Maria said...

Frank and Seth,

Not all liberals are rooting for our defeat in Iraq...

I just wanted to let you know.

4/26/2005 3:37 PM  
Blogger Seth said...

I know that, Lina. It's just hard to find them. Especially when there are guys like Loyal around--people who won't ever look positively on what's going on in Iraq.

p.s. awesome South Park icon!

4/26/2005 3:42 PM  
Blogger Tran Sient said...

Read the comments at the bottom of the article. Its hilarious. Various Iraqis talking about how things have gotten better, interupted by the occasional American talking about how bad things are.

4/26/2005 9:25 PM  
Blogger Barba Roja said...

You, Lina Marie, are a shame in front of the goyim.

4/26/2005 10:34 PM  
Blogger Barba Roja said...

It also might be pointed out that the BBC is run by the British government, which is run by Tony Blair, who is facing an election in two weeks, with most of the danger to his Prime Ministership coming from the unpopularity of the Iraq war.

And no liberals 'want' the US to fail in Iraq, that is a childish, dishonest and, if you'll forigve me saying, downright idiotic thing to say.

We just want the Iraqis to succeed. And in many ways the US is preventing them from doing that.

4/26/2005 10:55 PM  
Blogger Seth said...

Of course I'll forive you, Loyal.

I prefer to notice that the idea that most liberals (at least in the media and party leadership) definitely never wanted the Iraqis to succeed, and any statement to the contrary is "childish, dishonest, stupid" and revisionist.

4/27/2005 7:13 AM  
Blogger Seth said...

Tran Sient, my personal favorite:

"All of the people you interviewed are professionals. How were they able to get such advanced education under Saddam Hussein? Was there not discrimination against women? Weren't the Shia population denied these privileges? How could they afford such education?
Reva Rubenstein, Washington, DC, US"

My question to Reva: How could you live in the capital of the greatest nation in the world, surrounded by people with education, and not get one yourself?

4/27/2005 4:37 PM  
Blogger Temujin said...

Tony Blair is in no danger of losing his position as Prime Minister. Labour will win the upcoming election.

Blair's a socialist I can appreciate.

4/27/2005 8:20 PM  
Blogger Tran Sient said...

lol, Seth, now thats funny.

4/27/2005 9:35 PM  

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